Re: Export laws revisited

Jeff Simmons (
Thu, 1 May 1997 08:33:26 -0700 (PDT)

> >But many people have been visited by men in trenchcoats
> >and mirrored sunglasses and told that they'd BETTER take that crypto
> >software off their ftp sites, or Uncle Sam will be VERY pissed off.
> They have?
> I agree with everything you've said. I've just never heard of visits
> by MIB before.

The most famous, and widely reported, was the university (don't have the
name on the tip of my tongue right now) that developed Mosaic, the first
true web browser. They got a visit because one of their upgrades had
hooks for PGP services. No actual crypto code, just hooks.

Or talk to Netscape, who took over a year to satisfy the US requirements
for a 'secure' download site, so that they could give US citizens 128 bit
encryption capabilities in their various products.

BTW I've never heard of them harassing any of the so-called 'secure' sites,
no matter how weak their protections against evil foreigners.

Jeff Simmons

Hey, man, got any spare CPU cycles? Help crack DES.