Re: what's this "nice" unix thing? I'm a sysadmin...

Eating Before Swimming (mathboy@sizone.org)
Tue, 27 May 1997 12:25:44 -0400 (EDT)


then Albert.Garrido@nextel.com's all..
>
> This attack isn't exactly fair. There are a number of reasons why a system
> administrator would appear to be arrogant to an end user. I can think of

It wasnt the arrogance, it was more an attack on the technical
knowledge of the admins, and their conviction in the flawed statements.
('properly niced processes dont use up much CPU.').

> I for one, would be extremely wary of forwarding Deschall towards upper
> management in most of the jobs I've had. The idea of having to explain that
> 100% utilization isn't bad, and make them see that it isn't a threat to the
> business, or their computers, or their corporate resources doesn't appeal to me
> much. The odds are very good that I'll probably get taken aside and spoken to
> about the appropriateness of the effort, and the legal risks, and twenty other
> issues which they feel need to be stressed.

Truth. I know the mentality. This causes some people, like me and a couple of
colleagues from the industry, to go and create our own startup companies so
we can have people at the head of a company that DO understand these kinds
of issues. Its a dream.

> Trust me, you don't keep a job as a System Administrator if your stupid. You
> can get hired, but... If you have to explain to a niceness levels to a system

Well, universities, probably. 5-8 years ago, any sysadmin that I bumped
into at U of T and York would by default, to maintain proper
credentials, would have an unbiased love and respect for the internet,
a mindset about what proper proceedures were about, an interest in
efficiency and avoiding kludges, following RFCs, and all the rest of
that passe' faux-culture-for-geeks stuff. Deschall appeals to this
mindset directly for good or bad. However, it seems that these dont
exist anymore in universities, cuz the good ones have gone off to get
higher paying jobs now that their services are in need outside the
university bureaucracies.

I spose they probably just keep their mouths shut about "internet
culture" when working at corporations - you should have seen me and the
admin at the last place trying to explain to upper manglement why Spam
Emailing people was a bad thing. Sigh.

> administrator, and she just nods a lot and shakes her head, close your mouth and
> save your breath, nothing you had to say will interest her much.

This was the case of the admin who made the silly statement. We got a
cursory go-ahead, but on the workstations (IPCs I think) instead of the
main servers.

/kc

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Ken Chase mathboy@sizone.org Sonic Interzone $free$ email/news Toronto Canada
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